And kudos once again to opponents of Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker who celebrated their Dr. Martin Luther King Day holiday yesterday by hissing and chanting at the Governor during a solemn proclamation honoring Dr. King at the State Capitol in Madison.
In doing so, the Democrats notched yet another important victory for loutish self-absorption over common decency in the continuing battle for the hearts and minds of independent voters in the Badger State.
The highlights of their perfect season, undefeated by couth, includes shouting down the Pledge of Allegiance, booing the National Anthem, disrupting a ceremony honoring Special Olympians, and hassling returning troops, just to name a few. Their behavior in our Capitol rotunda would get them thrown out of Walmart.
Forget Scott Walker; you guys should recall your mom.
Or whoever it was that raised you to believe it was ok to interrupt ceremonies, hurl vulgarities at 14-year-old girls, disenfranchise cloistered nuns, bribe children with cigarettes to sign recall petitions, stalk the families of public officials, throw beer or coffee on opponents, make death threats, and try to shut down dissenting media outlets.
That might be what Democracy looks like in Venezuela or Iran, but not here. That’s not even what 4th grade looks like here. Our moms raised us to wait our turn, to let everyone speak, to compromise, to watch our language in public, to be gracious in both victory and defeat. We learned to stand our ground, but not to stand in the path of others’ rights to pass. We learned tolerance and patience – from our moms.
We don’t taunt, we don’t bully, and we don’t respect people so undisciplined that they cannot put a sock in it for one hour to honor the memory of a man who sacrificed his life for a cause he carried with dignity and respect.
I can understand why Democrats and unionists might not think disrupting an MLK commemoration is any big deal; after all, Dr. King had to fight Democrats to get black people their right to vote, and he had to fight unions to integrate the workforce. It is unlikely that the union/government schools tell students who was the party of the KKK and separate-but-equal back in the day.
So what if Dr. King gave his life? That is nothing compared to having to pay 12% of a health insurance premium, right? And how can we equate something trivial like institutionalized segregation with something really awful, like allowing school boards to compete those WEA trust insurance contracts now that the scam is blown?
I’ve heard the comeback: both sides do it. No, they don’t; one side does it. And that one side is not winning over any unaligned voters by pitching fits in public.
We are about to waste $9 million of our hard-earned money to give our Democrats another mulligan, money that will not be available for education, the elderly, the environment, cancer research, bridge repairs, or bike paths. Or, God forbid, tax relief for working people who can hardly make ends meet, thanks in part to one of the highest tax burdens in the country.
2/3 of that recall money will be paid by Republicans and Independents, both of whom overwhelmingly approve of the job Governor Walker is doing – the job he was elected fair and square to do.
It will come out of township budgets across the state, townships run by common-sense people from both Parties who would prioritize snow removal over an unbudgeted election if it were up to them – and us. If it were up to us, we would have the election to recall Scott Walker in November of 2014, when it was originally scheduled.
But it’s not up to us. It’s up to people whose moms did not teach them to wait their turn. It is up to union bosses from out East, together with the Madison liberals who think everyone’s money is their money, the Chicago urban vote factory which views Milwaukee as a colony, and out of state students who will leave us after graduation, taking with them the benefit of one of the best educations taxpayer subsidies can buy.
Many of those students putting their idealism and energy behind the Walker Recall will relocate to the low-tax, Right-To-Work, concealed carry, energy-friendly, business-friendly states where there is opportunity. I wish they would use that enthusiasm to help Governor Walker and his successors turn Wisconsin into one of those states, so they could find opportunities here.
That would make all our moms happy. They could see their grandchildren without having to pay a bag fee and endure a public groping at the hands of TSA.
“Moment Of Clarity” is a weekly commentary by Libertarian writer and speaker Tim Nerenz, Ph.D. Visit Tim’s website www.timnerenz.com to find your moment.
In doing so, the Democrats notched yet another important victory for loutish self-absorption over common decency in the continuing battle for the hearts and minds of independent voters in the Badger State.
The highlights of their perfect season, undefeated by couth, includes shouting down the Pledge of Allegiance, booing the National Anthem, disrupting a ceremony honoring Special Olympians, and hassling returning troops, just to name a few. Their behavior in our Capitol rotunda would get them thrown out of Walmart.
Forget Scott Walker; you guys should recall your mom.
Or whoever it was that raised you to believe it was ok to interrupt ceremonies, hurl vulgarities at 14-year-old girls, disenfranchise cloistered nuns, bribe children with cigarettes to sign recall petitions, stalk the families of public officials, throw beer or coffee on opponents, make death threats, and try to shut down dissenting media outlets.
That might be what Democracy looks like in Venezuela or Iran, but not here. That’s not even what 4th grade looks like here. Our moms raised us to wait our turn, to let everyone speak, to compromise, to watch our language in public, to be gracious in both victory and defeat. We learned to stand our ground, but not to stand in the path of others’ rights to pass. We learned tolerance and patience – from our moms.
We don’t taunt, we don’t bully, and we don’t respect people so undisciplined that they cannot put a sock in it for one hour to honor the memory of a man who sacrificed his life for a cause he carried with dignity and respect.
I can understand why Democrats and unionists might not think disrupting an MLK commemoration is any big deal; after all, Dr. King had to fight Democrats to get black people their right to vote, and he had to fight unions to integrate the workforce. It is unlikely that the union/government schools tell students who was the party of the KKK and separate-but-equal back in the day.
So what if Dr. King gave his life? That is nothing compared to having to pay 12% of a health insurance premium, right? And how can we equate something trivial like institutionalized segregation with something really awful, like allowing school boards to compete those WEA trust insurance contracts now that the scam is blown?
I’ve heard the comeback: both sides do it. No, they don’t; one side does it. And that one side is not winning over any unaligned voters by pitching fits in public.
We are about to waste $9 million of our hard-earned money to give our Democrats another mulligan, money that will not be available for education, the elderly, the environment, cancer research, bridge repairs, or bike paths. Or, God forbid, tax relief for working people who can hardly make ends meet, thanks in part to one of the highest tax burdens in the country.
2/3 of that recall money will be paid by Republicans and Independents, both of whom overwhelmingly approve of the job Governor Walker is doing – the job he was elected fair and square to do.
It will come out of township budgets across the state, townships run by common-sense people from both Parties who would prioritize snow removal over an unbudgeted election if it were up to them – and us. If it were up to us, we would have the election to recall Scott Walker in November of 2014, when it was originally scheduled.
But it’s not up to us. It’s up to people whose moms did not teach them to wait their turn. It is up to union bosses from out East, together with the Madison liberals who think everyone’s money is their money, the Chicago urban vote factory which views Milwaukee as a colony, and out of state students who will leave us after graduation, taking with them the benefit of one of the best educations taxpayer subsidies can buy.
Many of those students putting their idealism and energy behind the Walker Recall will relocate to the low-tax, Right-To-Work, concealed carry, energy-friendly, business-friendly states where there is opportunity. I wish they would use that enthusiasm to help Governor Walker and his successors turn Wisconsin into one of those states, so they could find opportunities here.
That would make all our moms happy. They could see their grandchildren without having to pay a bag fee and endure a public groping at the hands of TSA.
“Moment Of Clarity” is a weekly commentary by Libertarian writer and speaker Tim Nerenz, Ph.D. Visit Tim’s website www.timnerenz.com to find your moment.
Do you know or remember what Dr King was doing in Memphis? He was there to lead a march in support of the local AFSCME union, sanitation workers. After he was killed, his widow came to Memphis to lead the march; and in no small part because of the national attention, the city of Memphis caved, and agreed to a contract with the union. It was the first public union labor contract Memphis ever had. That is, King helped them gain collective bargaining rights; he gave his life helping them gain those rights.
ReplyDeleteWalker, on the other hand, has stripped collective bargaining rights from public worker unions, including Wisconsin chapters of AFSCME. Walker has taken away from Wisconsin workers that which King gave his life to help Memphis workers attain.
Booing Walker at an event in honor of Dr King was an entirely appropriate response.
And what party was running Memphis back then?
DeleteThanks for proving his point.
These so called collective bargaining rights you speak about ARE NOT AND HAVE NEVER BEEN A RIGHT. Collective bargaining has been a PRIVILEDGE that's been abused by people like you for years. Governor Walker just created a level playing field and all you people want to do is whine and complain - like you always have.
DeleteGet your facts right before you start talking about RIGHTS.....
Your mom might have taught you to be polite. But she sure as heck didn't teach you how to tell the truth.
ReplyDeleteAwww, Robert, did you get the part about our Mom's taught us to wait our turn? Nope, you are just SHAMEFUL.
ReplyDeleteWow, Robert Earle. Just... wow. "Booing walker at an event in honor of Dr. King was an entirely appropriate response." I was taught that booing and being disruptive is NEVER appropriate. The new "appropriate" in Wisconsin is that any ugly behavior is okay as long as it's directed at Walker.
ReplyDelete@robertearle - thank you for making your position clear. We obviously have different ideas about what is entirely appropriate. Best regards.
ReplyDeleteTim
robert.... Governor Walker gave workers the 'FREEDOM OF CHOICE' to belong or not belong to the unions. What do you think MLK was fighting for? Why do you have a problem with giving workers more rights? Don't you think they have the right to say 'NO, I don't want to join your union and pay dues? Why do you believe in FORCING employees to belong to an organization they don't believe in? Why do the unions have to use FORCE??
ReplyDeleteYou are so utterly on the money, Tim, that this editorial is bound to insult the left.
ReplyDeleteYet, if it had been conservatives pushing for public spending to recall Droopy Dog Doyle on any of a number of issues they disagreed with, they ungodly howl of hatred would be deafening. 2014 is just around the corner; this effort is the most selfish piece of needless spending I have ever witnessed in my lifetime of being a Wisconsin resident.
The recallers are whiny, tantrum-throwing, rude little babies. Thank you for this perfectly CORRECT piece of writing.
Tim, it's absurd to say Gov. Walker was elected "fair and square" when he convinced union workers to vote for him based on a platform of cleaning up the government and eliminating waste (which most people support), but didn't mention his plan to eliminate those workers' right to collectively bargain.
ReplyDeleteWalker is getting recalled because he lied to union workers (and Wisconsin residents) about his true platform. $9 million is nothing compared to the value of getting a corrupt governor out of office.
See Cynthia's reply at 1030 am and follow the link. Being lied to and being moronically uninformed are completely separate things Dennis.
DeleteWEAC knew, AND PUBLISHED, Walkers intentions toward collective bargaining. Just because you didn't know that doesn't mean you were lies to, it means you werent informed. It's okay, blind ignorance is expected of the Left.
Speaking of being lied to during an election- cutting the deficit in half, lambasting Bush for adding $5T over 8 years to it (as opposed to adding $6T over 3 years), repealing the Patriot Act, closing GitMo, and... and... and... All things promised by Obama, and all lies. Should we recall him? Oh, we can't. We can only impeach him for committing a crime in office or complete dereliction of duty. And yet I'd bet crucial body parts that you're going to vote for him in November.
Walker delivered in his promises, and his reward is having to re-run because a bunch of whiny petulant babies no longer get their way. Please. Not elected "fair and square?" You're embarrassing yourself.
I really wish people would get it through their heads that collective bargaining is not a right it is a privilege. All those public workers were given the right to choose if they wanted to affiliate with a union or not.
ReplyDeleteYou said want to do you MOM? There's an app for that. Your a wimping lying republi-CON? There's a colt 45 for that. Insert into mouth and pull.
ReplyDeleteYou are disgusting!
DeleteCoincidentally Tim, on the way home the other day I saw a bumper sticker that said Recall blah blah blah. I assumed it was yet another spoiled brat anti-Walker doofus. But after looking again I saw it said "Recall Your Mom". I laughed the rest of the way home.
ReplyDeleteTim, it's absurd to say Gov. Walker was elected "fair and square" when he convinced union workers to vote for him based on a platform of cleaning up the government and eliminating waste (which most people support), but didn't mention his plan to eliminate those workers' privilege to collectively bargain.
ReplyDeleteWalker is getting recalled because he lied to union workers (and Wisconsin residents) about his true platform. $9 million is nothing compared to the value of getting a corrupt governor out of office.
/fixed, the point remains
Cynthia, here's what Dr King had to say about the "right to work" position you are arguing:
ReplyDelete“In our glorious fight for civil rights, we must guard against being fooled by false slogans, as 'right-to-work.' It provides no 'rights' and no 'works.' Its purpose is to destroy labor unions and the freedom of collective bargaining... We demand this fraud be stopped.”
I'm still waiting for the day that union people storm the white house saying Obama hasn't given federal workers the collective bargaining "rights" that even WI workers now do. Yes, federal workers do not have any of these "rights." Shame shame or something...
ReplyDeleteWhen did the leader of the civil rights movement in the US become the poster child for the unions? Celebrating Martin Luther King Jrs. life is about civil rights. Having a union rule your life is your choice or it should be....so if you want to pay them then you can. But you should have that choice.....the choice Walker has given you. Given you a CIVIL RIGHT to say yes or no to a unions.
ReplyDeleteIf the Government unions still has collective bargaining, they would have cost local governments much more than the estimated 9 million dollars to recall our Governor. A teacher receiving $40,000 per year pension benefit, requires a $12,800 per year,(earning a 6% rate each year ), contribution. The health care contribution is over $10,000 per year. This money, $22,800 each year, is tax free to the teachers. I am funding their retirement when I pay my taxes, and have nothing left to fund my own. Gov. Walker is just filling a 'loop-hole' in our tax system
ReplyDeleteDennis,
ReplyDeleteYou appear to be dizzy from all the spin. Scott Walker did NOT lie to get elected...we have proof of that on both WEAC's website as well as the Journal Sentinal paper who posted it before the election in 2010.
Dennis, I know you've heard otherwise from those in your echo chamber, but Walker certainly DID talk about what he'd do as Governor and WEAC published a primer on it BEFORE the election.
ReplyDeleteIf Walker had courted the union vote, why did the Big Labor Unions start working on the recall the day after he was elected. Everyone knew exactly what his plans were regarding public employee contributions. That was never a secret! And again, if collective bargaining is a right, why is it a right only afforded to public sector employees of the state and not federal or private employees?
ReplyDeleteSpot on Dr. Tim.
ReplyDeleteI have yet to here one union supporting, Walker hating liberal say what their big plan is if the get rid of Walker? Put a far left democrat in the position? Assuming you pull that off, then what? Reverse Act 10 and give back collective bargaining for everything? Then what? How do local govts. accross the state balance their budgets without eliminating the very jobs you cry baby's are birching about? They can't. Oh sure, you can raise taxes again, make corporations do combined reporting to get even more taxes right? Maybe even steal from other funds like transportation or patients fund to balance it for a year or two. Then you're. Right back where Doyle left off. 3 plus billion in the hole and no way to fix it. Why doyou think Doyle didn't run for another term? Because he ran out of ways to pay for his union pals slush funds and high salaries. You never expected Walker to actually make things better did you? But since a republican did it, he's got to be stopped at all cost. Success can only be achieved by Dems. right? Good luck with that. By all means, let's. hear those wonderful plans you have libs.
ReplyDeleteWalker is taking rights away. Not giving rights. Before there were unions a person had to work 7 days a week, and as many hours a day the empolyer said they had to. There was no such thing as Over time. It was slave labor. So all you non-union members---you have rights and you are repeaping the benifits of unions. Wake Up, Walker wants to take these rights away.
ReplyDeleteTaken from the Department of Labors website :
DeleteQuestion: What does the Department of Labor do?
Answer: The Department of Labor (DOL) fosters and promotes the welfare of the job seekers, wage earners, and retirees of the United States by improving their working conditions, advancing their opportunities for profitable employment, protecting their retirement and health care benefits, helping employers find workers, strengthening free collective bargaining, and tracking changes in employment, prices, and other national economic measurements. In carrying out this mission, the Department administers a variety of Federal labor laws including those that guarantee workers’ rights to safe and healthful working conditions; a minimum hourly wage and overtime pay; freedom from employment discrimination; unemployment insurance; and other income support.
Unions arent needed anymore because we now have a government agency set in place and regulated that we dont have dues garnished from our wages on top of normal taxes.
^ my sentiments exactly. Unions served a purpose 40-69 years ago. Now we have the US Dept of Labor and federal labor laws, minimum wage, overtime laws and the like. Unions have out-lived their purpose.
Deletewell he's had the gold n union spoon for a long time forgive him for soon he will pay like we do...i would be mad too if people stopped giv en me free money too.. ha ha
Deletedennis.... here is just one article of the about 20 I have gathered that you must have missed BEFORE the election....
ReplyDelete"Our members oppose taking away their rights to collective bargaining, so they would definitely raise their voices against it," Christina Brey, speaking for the Wisconsin Education Association Council, said of Walker's plan.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/101771723.html
"On 1 February 1968, two Memphis garbage collectors, Echol Cole and Robert Walker, were crushed to death by a malfunctioning truck. Twelve days later, frustrated by the city’s response to the latest event in a long pattern of neglect and abuse of its black employees, 1,300 black men from the Memphis Department of Public Works went on strike. Sanitation workers, led by garbage-collector-turned-union-organizer, T. O. Jones, and supported by the president of the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), Jerry Wurf, demanded recognition of their union, better safety standards, and a decent wage."
ReplyDeleteThat fight was a far cry from free viagra, excessive pensions, double-dipping salaries, total and ultimate job security and practically free health care and retirement.
Dr. king was fighing against the mistreatment and discrimination of BLACK workers and knew that a union was the only way to do it at the time. In this day and age of instant dissemination of information and easy lawsuits, the kind of conditions those poor people were fighting could never happen again without public outrage. he current bargaining rights and laws protecting workers wouldn't allow for it anyhow. Comparing the two scenarios is ridiculous.
That's fine for 1968. What have you done for me lately?
DeleteGreat read once again Dr. Tim.
ReplyDeleteIt's funny that when you research the motives behind the 1959 decision to grant public unions collective bargaining privileges in Wisconsin. One that stood out was the better relations with government and the employees which would prevent strikes that would interrupt community services.
Funny thing is... the garbage collectors of AFSCME local 48 were always threatening to strike at budget time. This lead to the 1959 state statute to grant collective bargaining in exchange for no strike provisions.
But, in 1974, the Hortonville Teachers Union was the first to break that trust with a strike. That was followed by the Madison Fire Dept. and Milwaukee PD in 1977. These two actions led to "binding arbitration clauses" which is where taxpayer really got shafted.
With the arbitration clauses, the union could just appeal and the arbitration process is biased against the employee so many communities were told X and Y cities can afford this demand. All you have to do is raise taxes and you can afford it also. Thus, the taxpayers lost nearly every time.
Anonymous at one point in our past we also needed a horse and buggy, needed to grow and raise our own food, pull water from a well, start a fire to make dinner, make our own clothes, etc. We didn't have electricity nor did we have many other luxury's.... unions are outdated, have over reached, become corrupt and have been replaced by laws both Federal and State.
ReplyDeleteI apologize for some of the typos in the previous post - especially, Dr. King's name not being properly capitalized. A slip on my mouse pad caused it to publish before I had a chance to review and edit.
ReplyDeleteBooing and chanting at a solemn event such as this, shows the childishness of the left. If their mom did try to teach them respect and manners, they didn't learn very well.
ReplyDeleteI would think that before anyone makes a comment about Dr. Tim's political beliefs, one would certainly know that he is not Republican, he is Libertarian.
ReplyDeleteWalker's not taking ANY rights away. In fact, he's GIVING more rights to state workers by allowing them to CHOOSE whether or not to join a union.
ReplyDeleteHe also did what he said he would do in the campaign. WEAC's own website had information on it way back in June 2010.
But of course the deranged Walker-haters won't let facts get in the way of a good hissy fit.
"Walker is taking rights away. Not giving rights. Before there were unions a person had to work 7 days a week, and as many hours a day the empolyer said they had to. There was no such thing as Over time. It was slave labor. So all you non-union members---you have rights and you are repeaping the benifits of unions. Wake Up, Walker wants to take these rights away."
ReplyDeleteYou can't be serious? Are you 12 years old and just learned about labor unions in your history class? If you are an adult, God help our state and country!
To the goofball who suggested that the author commit suicide:
ReplyDeleteCongratulations, you proved his point perfectly.
Apparently, someone should have recalled your mom while she was on the delivery table (or Mc Donald's parking lot), squeezing out you.
Sad sack of dung.
Robert and the rest of you dung spewing leftists: Collective Bargaining is not now or ever been a right! Read the constitution.
ReplyDeleteThank you for the intelligent interpretation of the hijacking of common sense in our state. To use the oldest state sponsored MLK ceremony in the country as a staging ground for the apathetic, self-centered and arrogant demands of the public employee unions is appalling but not surprising.
ReplyDeleteAfter all, these are the same questionable people who would send thugs to the family residence of the governor to protest when the only people there are his wife and children. What courage that takes!
It is ultimately ironic that the schools used to be the center-point for education about the dangers of bullying and peer-pressure of our children. I can see why now-they have the technics perfected, only this time it's aimed dead-on to the private sector taxpayer.
Why bother even speaking out against union hard heads. They want a recall lets Rock and hope sanity prevails against ignorance. The law isn't going to change even if the Gov. is recalled. The union bosses are eating their young in this one to protect their fat cat pensions and salaries in the name of Union brotherhood.
ReplyDeleteThose of you that want to think collective bargaining is a right... well here is the NLRB poster which if you read... One section of the EXCLUDED are public sector....
ReplyDelete*
The National Labor Relations Act covers most private-sector employers. Excluded from coverage under the NLRA
are public-sector employees,
http://www.dol.gov/olms/regs/compliance/EmployeeRightsPoster11x17_Final.pdf
You mad, bro?
ReplyDeleteWait, REALLY? Someone's going to call out DEMOCRATS for poor behavior? Holy cow.
ReplyDeleteDennis,
ReplyDeleteIf the union workers didn't know what Walker was going to do, why were they trying to get the lame duck congress and gov to sign new contracts for the next year before he came into office?????
If this is such a "right" why don't Federal Workers have collective bargaining for benifits?
Still no answers from the communistas about what they plan on doing if they get rid of Walker? Anyone, anyone? Yeah, I didn't think so. Liberals don't have answers, they just like to bitch about their problems, then blame everyone else for them.
ReplyDeleteThis article is spectacular and dead on-point. I'm disgusted by the constant bickering, whining, hippie-protests, unwashed masses, recall stickers, stupid lefty-union fist pump stickers and idiotic morons signing, destroying, desecrating and pooping in our beautiful state Capitol.
ReplyDeleteI can't wait to be one of the votes (non-fraudulently of course) to keep our Govenor in office. This won't even be close. He will be re-elected and hopefully many times more.
So, you are being "deprived" of your "right to collectively bargain".
ReplyDeleteSorry, but that's pure doublespeak.
You HAVE the right to collectively bargain, but you must now CONVINCE each individual that it is in his or her best interest to be represented by the Union. What you have been DEPRIVED of is the right to FORCE workers to pay both money and power to your collective use.
It's all about power and the ability to concentrate it. Now, you will have to do the nasty, disgusting things that you have refused to do. Things like refuse to support crooked politicians. Things like actually helping your workers. Things like actually representing the workers that pay to keep the union.
If workers have the choice to pay or not, then you will have to work to keep their support. You will have to work to bring them value for their money. You will have to work to demonstrate that you are a force for good and not for evil.
Yes, I understand why you're upset! You can no longer FORCE workers to pay you to ruin our society with corruption.
Rate these comments Left or Right in order received. What happened to all the L's? Blurt an unintelligent comment and run before it can be disputed. Seems to be how they roll.
ReplyDeleteThanks Dr. (Nerenz and King)!
"Fact Master said...
ReplyDeleteDennis, You appear to be dizzy from all the spin. Scott Walker did NOT lie to get elected...we have proof of that on both WEAC's website as well as the Journal Sentinal paper who posted it before the election in 2010."
FINALLY others are realizing this and pointing it out - thanks Fact Master. Now we need to find those links (I have the MJS links saved, but not the WEAC or AFSCME links.)
http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/112459874.html
http://www.jsonline.comnews/statepolitics/111463779.html
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/101771723.html
http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/106144233.html
My mother would have told me to protest harder, and more. In this country, a wrong is a wrong. America is a BETTER democracy than Iraq, for a simple reason. Protest without retaliation. That's why we, as a country allow groups to make demonstrations even if the majority vilifies their principles. (an excellent example would be the KKK, whom anyone in their right mind would revile on principle).
ReplyDeleteThere is a gross misinterpretation about the actual results of Walker's affects on public unions. The unions may continue to exist, but without the right to collectively bargain, they are effectively just a group wearing the same colored shirt.
Unless of course your in the police unions. which were conveniently left alone.
Then arises the argument of "well, how else do we fix the budget!"
Here's an easy way to fix the budget, without taking away what little bargaining rights the public sector employees had.
A. Improve the energy grid, let the electric companies make more profit, tax the surplus.
B. Cut the protective services department (Police,Fire,etc). Although this appears to be Anathema to common sense, it is the same problem the US government faces. To many officers, bad distribution and inefficient management. In many districts, the protective services make up the majority of the expenses of a township.
C. Switch to more efficient systems. There is an upfront cost, but most simple improvements have under a year for simple payback. (for example, LED lighting for streets)
nobody protested when i had a paycut or when i had to pay for my insurance or when i lost vacation day. where were u? im waitng. there is protesting then there is throwing a fit cause u didnt get your way. u obviously cannot tell the difference. my 8 year old daughter can. maybe she could show u the difference sometime. on second thought i wouldnt want u anywhere near her. really led lighting u have got to be kidding me.
DeleteFrom the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (my addition in parentheses):
ReplyDelete"Walker spoke briefly (before flying to NYC foranother fundraiser)at the event Monday afternoon that attracted hundreds of people and featured a gospel choir from Chicago, a youth choir from Madison and a keynote speech from University of Maryland law professor Sherrilyn Ifill.
She elicited loud applause during her comments when she said that King would not have approved of laws requiring voters to present photo identification at the polls. Walker signed a photo ID law last year.
Ifill also drew applause when she said King would have stood up for worker rights.
Anonymous Hard Protester,
ReplyDelete"Public union" is an oxymoron that perpetuates some sort of flawed and dangerous circum-monopoly (I made that word up). Who are they protecting themselves from? Their boss? The tax payer? The KKK? I don’t understand, please explain. Maybe start by telling me where all the union dues end up. And your budget fix? A. Where do electric companies get their money from to pay taxes? B. Good start – eliminate 40,000 useless government regulations and those unionized positions would not be needed. C. Not even a drop in the bucket, no mater how much savings claims are exaggerated.
Please, keep your dreams alive. Your Mom won’t wake you up either.
Recall the son of a b#@ch!!
ReplyDeleteAny mother of a republican should be recalled, and slapped a well.
ReplyDeleteRecall the son of a b#@ch!!
ReplyDeleteYes!!!!!!! Recall Barry Obama!!!!!!! My thoughts exactly!!!!!!!
DeleteInteresting...Dr. Martin Luther King was a Republican....
ReplyDeleteWOW, and the left rears their ugly heads and leave immature comments... Proving Dr. Tim right again... LOL
ReplyDeleteI really wish you people would have paid attention in school. The United States of America is a Republic and not a democracy for good reason...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFXuGIpsdE0
People are afraid of change. Plain and simple!! We don't live in the 50's any more. It isn't a time when a business owner could get away with mistreating their employees. This is 2012, a time with way too much government regulation, so you know workers are protected. Being a small business owner, I know, the better I treat my employees, the harder they work, not the other way around. I pay for you and me, and all the uninsured motorists. It drives me nuts when I see 5 guys standing around a little pot hole on only ONE SHOVEL!
ReplyDeleteElections happen often enough. Give the guy a chance to see if what he did is really that bad or if it is actually going to work. Stop signing petitions, wasting money on a recall, and get back to work!!
Walker seems to have fixed in 2 years what Doyle trashed in the previous 8.
Quite simply-- Socialist-Marxist, leftists use thuggery, profanity, fear tactics, rudeness, complaining, name calling etc x100--to justify their "stance" on issues like our proud Govenors courageous efforts to fix what doyle and his cronies got us all into. Cowards.........
ReplyDeleteGO WALKER!!!!!!!!! 20 more years!!!!!!!
Right on. The Democrats need to quit whining and find a way to make Wisconsin move forward. Scott Walker said he would do what he has done and I commend him for it. Quit whining, you could have waited out the 4 years. Now you democrats look like idiots.
ReplyDeleteComparing what MLK did before he died to today's Union workers is a slap in the face of civil-rights workers from the 60s. Today's cry-baby Unionists don't know what real work is...5 people to watch the low man on the pole shovel hotmix into a half-water-filled pothole takes about $120.00+ worth of average talent? Supervisors for supervisors and no one gets the grass cut? How much talent does it take to drive a truck 10-20 mph below the posted speed limit? I've got relatives that do that now, leaving the blinker on for miles on end and they only get a SS check. Heck, even during a snow-squal, watching a plow drive on the shoulder of the road spreading salt was nothing short of insane...and some of you Union-stooges have the guts to defend that type of idiotic behavior? And you claim you had "rights" pulled from you?? No where in the WISCONSIN State Constitution does is same "rights" for collective bargaining. It doesn't even refer to "collective bargaining" at all. "Collective Bargaining" is nothing more than an AGREEMENT, which is nothing more than a "contract" between two entities that can be rescinded when one party feels he/she is getting screwed over. Well...the WI. taxpayer agrees that it's time to quit bending over and letting some liberal-minded, favor-sucking judge or two decide to let the taxpayers twist in the wind. The taxpayers have been silent too long and last year, THEY decided that poor service, indiferent attitudes and overly-priced talent needs to be shown the door. Now the cry-babies at the top of the pile are panicking at the sight of their ill-gotten skimmings are being taken back away from them and all the lower-eggs in the shops are being told it's Walker's fault. So, Mr. Tearle, if you want to pipe the tune that your Masters encourage you to pipe, go for it. Then, when the day finally comes and you can open your eyes and see what a "slave" you've been for all these years, maybe you'll be able to take home a better paycheck, have more of an insurance plan and think clearer instead of marching to that "drum beat" you're being told to follow. Sometimes, the view does change when you get out from behind the dogs leading your pack. And the side benefit? The air is a bit clearer and not so "flatulently" tainted, either. Enjoy the clarity...if you dare.
ReplyDeleteI am so thankful for your writings Dr. Tim. Don't ever stop. Yours is a place I come to in the morning over my first sips of coffee to right my mind before venturing out into the socialist republic of Madison.
ReplyDelete2 points you missed. 1. Better to behave politically inappropriately for all to see than hide behind closed doors. 2. Like Walmart, Wisconsin is open for business and rolling back prices to create limited jobs in your community. Many educators I've talked with express the same concern, its not what they lost its HOW it was taken. Walker acted like a "Maverick" without realizing he wasn't in the untamed west.
ReplyDelete@Jeff: If by "limited jobs" you mean limited government jobs, then I'm all in favor.
ReplyDeleteRobert I like your comments. Lets spend another nine million and put another person in office that puts our state back in a deficit again. People do not realize that if Walker did not take away some of those rights our teaches would have thrown a bigger fit and striked. Why because they have to pay their fair share like the rest of us. Then what would have happened with all of our students. My wife works at a daycare where we live and has been in daycare for 22 years. Kids that come to the daycare where tshirts with a hand in the shape of Wisconsin state on the shirt Teach me how to Protest is written on it. These are teacher's kids here from where i Live. Great message to be sendingto kids.These kids range in age from 1 to 6. A lot of these peole are your typical cry babies that want everything and give nothing. Walker has done a great job for this state and will keep doing so.People wake up and get your facts straight. I have 5 kids from age of 17 to 6 and not one of the schools my kids go to have lost anything. They have actually gained back programs they did not have before. Between my wife and i who both work fulltime we make about 50k per year so we are not rich by anymeans. I and my family are for Walker and what he has done. Shame on all of you for putting in your junk for comments that are untrue.
ReplyDeleteI find it laughable that the uninformed left doesn't understand the difference between public sector unions and private sector.
ReplyDeleteIn the private sector the 2 sides, provider and payer, come to an agreement.
In the public sector the payer(taxpayer) has no say in the terms of the agreement. Rather the Unions deal with the politicians they put in office with money extracted from the union workers.
George Meany and FDR both were against public sector unionization for that reason.
Statements equating Public unions with private are meaningless until the payer has a say.
Brilliant piece that summarizes for the COUNTRY what the Thugs devolve to. Public Unions working for the greater good and ME getting the same basic "rights" that I have in the private sector; not even an argument. Where do we send the bill for this recall charade?
ReplyDeleteAnd which is the party of the "Southern Strategy" from 1968 to the present? Way to distort history.
ReplyDeleteBut, isn't blind ignorance of the human condition outside the scope of a white protestant christian right-wing base? At least that's what the talking heads appear to be spouting as of late. Why should public workers be denied the same rights as private?
ReplyDeleteAre you seriously willing to tell me that an electrician working for the department of public works should be paid just a minor stipend more than a kid flipping burgers at a McDonald?
Or perhaps you would prefer that there is no public service district.
For example, a neighborhood traffic light breaks.
We'll have the poor pay private contractors when their light falls from service.
If they have no money, I suppose that little plot of land will have to learn to live without the safety and the normalcy that the light provides.
That seems a little inhumane in the 'worlds greatest nation', doesn't it?
Unless of course there is a public service which the people collectively pay an electrician an honest wage, through taxes, that can perform the work.
But then, how does one determine the wage of that public servant? Do you tie that wage to the median electrician's wage for a private enterprise? What about non-pay related perks?
Serving a community with a service that requires skill should not be rewarded by receiving inferior benefits than one in a private enterprise.
Otherwise, why would one want to serve?
Patriotism is dead. Those on the right and the left cling to blind nationalism, and the difference is paramount.
You cannot build a great structure with no support.
Depending on a national service (DOL) to determine the appropriate rights for workers in a specific area is absurd, even against the base of a classically right-looking voting base.
Walker is slime, no, that is to kind. Slime can be useful.
Hell, I'd have voted for him again if he made a few simple changes.
His non-partisan policy is a travesty to our democratic republic.
Madison's the focal point of a much larger struggle. Hopefully some of you will throw down the wraps of avarice that blind you to your brothers suffering.
To Anonymous at the bottom: Bravo comrade...spoken like a true communist. From those according to his ability, to those according to his needs, right? When I had a job not making as much money as I wanted or needed, I found another job, rather than whining that I needed more of my neighbors money to survive. How about that approach, anonymous? Takes a little work, but you have plenty of time to write long blogs, so puts some of that energy into improving your lot in life instead of bemoaning your condition, and blaming others.
ReplyDeleteTo Dennis, Scott Walker is cleaning things up. I'm sure you are aware of the prior $30,000 health insurance premium cost, offered by an insurance company, owned by the union? And that before Walker, an offer was on the table to charge union members just a fraction of that cost..but they refused because they felt waiting for a Barrett Governorship would be in their favor. Things didn't work out that way, and now workers must pay a fraction of that cost, and collective bargaining is gone, and that cost has nose-dived. Amazing what a little competition can do for cost. I pay $450/month for health insurance, and have a $5000 deductible. Still feel slighted? Stop whining and be productive.
Go Walker, and Tim, keep up the excellent work!
The only thing the union people care about with regards to MLK day is that they get there holiday pay and double time for working the holiday !! I for one have heard all the noise from the lib's in Madistan that I can stand !! I hope Falk is your choice !! She will bring out the repubs in droves !!
ReplyDeleteI am a public school teacher in Wisconsin. Scott Walker gave me the right, for the first time, to choose whether or not I want to belong to a union.
ReplyDeleteAnyone who thought he courted the union vote is wrong. My union, which is no longer my union, campaigned against him and campaigned hard. In fact, in the over 20 years I was in the union, they never backed a Republican candidate.
I have to contribute a small amount to my health insurance and pension now. My health insurance is $33 LESS than my union dues were each month. It's a small price for me to pay to help the families I teach. Many of the taxpayers, my students' parents, are having a difficult time providing for their families. I can't condone raising their taxes so I can continue to pay nothing for Cadillac insurance and nothing toward my pension. The benefit package the union bargained for is unsustainable.
I have seen the behavior Tim described first hand. It is shameful, especially coming from teachers. We teach our students that being rude and disrespectful is wrong. We teach them to respect differences in opinion, religion, etc. I guess now it is do as I say, not as I do.
I am proud to be a teacher, but ashamed to see the way some of my colleagues are acting.
Dr. Tim,
ReplyDeleteNicely done. One thing though, everytime I bring up the KKK and the democratic party, the liberals always claim the parties switched platforms.
Dennis,
Here is another piece of evidence that Gov. Walker did not lie to get elected. This is a newsletter from WEAC. Wake up and stop with the lies.
http://www.weac.org/LUC/newsletters/October%20Lakewood%20Lookout.pdf
I am, no, the majority of Wisconsin is, sick and tired of the constant whining of the public sector unions. As a union leader you know you have no usefulness any longer but you strive to invent some relevance. You appeal to the mindless followers who think yelling "shame" or standing outside beating a drum is a positive contribution. It's not. You and your followers self pity is apparent to all. The real middle class are the folks who work every day (without the negotiated 15 minute union brake every 2 hours) who pay for their own retirement and their own health insurance. Grow up, move out of your parents basement, be thankful for the job you have and if you don't like your job or your employer, then do what every American does, find another job.
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ReplyDeleteYour link does not appear to work? would like to read it.
If, heaven forbid, Governor Walker is defeated, I for one, as a tax-paying citizen of Wisconsin, will be looking for the first opportunity to leave this great state. My hope will be that all tax-paying citizens will leave the state, and the union workers can basically work to pay taxes to themselves and the other losers in this state who don't work and pay taxes.
ReplyDeleteLet the last union worker to leave the state turn out the lights.
Collective bargaining may have been a necessity in King's day. Now, not only is it not necessary, but it's destructive. Why? Because the unions and the politicians who "negotiate", sleep in the same bed. Well, that bed has become very messy. Walker is the "mom" (not being sexist here, just extending the theme of the post) who decided finally it was time to clean that bed. So, let's be grown up for a minute. 1. Walker did NOT lie about his intentions. 2. It had to be done as the burden on the tax payer (i.e. working stiff) was unsustainable.We need more Walker's in this country or the debt will eventually make this country irrelevant. And at that point, the union workers won't be looking at a 3% or 6% hit to their compensation, but will be looking at the unemployment line.
ReplyDeleteAmen Dr. Amen!!
ReplyDeletetroy the only problem with that theory is that corporate profits are at an all time high while wages remain stagnant. Without proper labor representation management will always give to themselves first and we have seen the results of that with the shrinking of the middle class while the most affluent exponentially increase their political and financial standing.
ReplyDelete@ Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteCopy and paste the link into your address bar. It's a PDF file. It will work.
All I can say is our property taxes went down significantly this year, our school saved ~$500k from NOT being forced to use the union insurance company AND we didn't have to lay off any teachers or cut any programs. OH - and did I mention, our school districts can now pay teacher's based on merit/performance - not just time served. Please help me understand what's wrong with that????
ReplyDeleteAn impressive share! I've just forwarded this onto a colleague who was conducting a little research on this. And he in fact ordered me lunch simply because I found it for him... lol. So allow me to reword this.... Thanks for the meal!! But yeah, thanks for spending the time to talk about this topic here on your internet site.
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